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[catweasel]

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"Mistake. He didn't say a word, but gestured to another official standing nearby. Next thing I was in the famous "room" where I was incarcerated for several more hours. At some point I got out my Palm Pilot to read a book I had on it. As soon as one of the guards saw this he called out to me "put it away". I wasn't sure he was addressing me, though I suspected he was, so I continued reading. He came over, thrust his face into mine, and said "I said put it away". I asked him why, and offered to demonstrate to him that it wasn't a phone. "Put it away NOW or you'll lose it".

[catweasel]

This letter is in response to your inquiry to the Office of the Ombudsman regarding check-in delays at airports.

For a number of years prior to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, the Federal Government had issued directives prohibiting individuals, who posed, or were suspected of posing, a threat to civil aviation from transport by the airlines. Following the September 11 attacks, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) assumed responsibility for what has become known as the No Fly List.


The Federal Government also maintains a Selectee List of individuals who must undergo additional screening before being permitted to fly. Collectively, these lists are referred to as Watch Lists.

TSA compiles the Watch Lists based on recommendations and information received from Federal agencies, including intelligence and law enforcement agencies. TSA requires the airlines to verify each passenger’s name against the Watch Lists prior to clearing that person for travel.

TSA recognizes that implementation of the Watch Lists has occasionally led to frustrating delays at airports for individuals inadvertently impacted by the clearance procedures. You may experience delays if your name is the same as, or similar to, the name of a person on the Watch Lists. We regret this inconvenience and have developed a clearance protocol that should provide a more efficient process for you during flight check-in.

In an effort to assist us in assessing your situation, we ask that you complete the enclosed Passenger Identity Verification Form (PIVF). TSA will be unable to process your request without the information requested on the PIVF. We will notify you in writing of our determination and will contact the appropriate parties, including the airlines, in an effort to streamline your check-in.

Please understand that the TSA clearance process will not remove a name from the Watch Lists. Instead this process distinguishes passengers from persons who are in fact on the Watch Lists by placing their names and identifying information in a cleared portion of the Lists. This information is transmitted to the airlines. Airline personnel can then more quickly determine when implementing TSA-required identity verification procedures that these passengers are not the person of interest whose name is actually on the Watch Lists.




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Clearance by TSA may not eliminate the need to go to the ticket counter in order to check-in. While TSA cannot ensure that this procedure will relieve all delays, we hope it will facilitate a more efficient check-in process for you. Additionally, TSA has issued guidance to the airlines to clarify further the Watch List clearance protocol.





DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THEY SAID I WILL ALWAYS BE ON THEIR LIST? EVEN IF THEY MAKE IT EASIER FOR ME TO FLY ??

[turtle]

e: Tourists need not apply [Re: deadserious]
copper80 copper80 Offline


If or shall i say WHEN..we get rid of Bush AND Cheney, and god forbid hopefully McCain doesnt get the job as president , maybe i can be a proud american again,as of now the government sucks.
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#273513 - Yesterday at 08:58 PM Re: Tourists need not apply [Re: copper80]
Jesse Jesse Administrator Offline


AMEN!!!
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Dear B^&*Head

Jesse/gringostarr.....Who are you to AMEN anything!! I wouldn't
exactly say the Musa "regime" HAS DONE MUCH FOR ITS PEOPLE AND
COUNTRY. A Jackass is as a Jackass does...get your head out of yours.!!

We've all read your cutting and nasty comments on the bf why don't you
post that attitude on martyboard where you are an admin?? Instead you
say AMEN.....like you, the cut and paste man knows it all. Sad.

[turtle]

Sorry...didn't mean to get sidetracked by Jesse. So, back to topic.

I had a very unfortunate experience with the TSA in Alaska while
vacationing with my mother. I hurt myself and was in a wheelchair
going through security when I was ordered out of the chair..told very
rudely to stand while I was wanded over and over again!! Then was
ordered to continue standing while the chair was wanded and frisked!!

I believe I was being used as a warning to those standing in line that
"just cuz you're in a wheelchair, gives you no extra privilege or
consideration." I was totally fried by the time they got through with
me. Unfortunately, reporting, falls to deaf ears and most likely winds up
in the shredder. This process was inhumane to say the least and was
performed in extreme military code as though I was a war criminal.
I was grabbed by my arm when I didn't react fast enough to their
instructions as to which way to turn, etc.

I have traveled all over this world and have NEVER experienced this elsewhere
except for a milder case of this while entering Japan. There,
I was not only wanded but physically frisked in front of many on-lookers.
But, I was not injured and in a wheelchair, either.

[Mid Atlantic]

That does it.........I'm shaving this beard off before my next pass through Kennedy and Miami.

[turtle]

Funny Mid...but sadly a bit of truth to that. More important is to not
make eye contact with any agent at any airport including the wanding woman who stands outside of the Belize Int'l holding tank as you are beginning your journey across the tarmac to get on the jet taking you out of the country.

The reason is, they won't physically touch you to get your attention but WILL
motion you over for a wanding if they can catch your attention with the eyes.
That is, unless they have been instructed to do so from another agent because you look suspicious for whatever reason.

I feel badly for catweasel because he has such a common name that the odds of that same name on the "list" are fairly high. The fact they won't
take his name with his passport number, etc. off the "list" eventhough he is innocent makes him a VICTIM along with others like him and this needs
to be addressed and changed!!! There is NO excuse.

[turtle]

To those foreigners who bitched about their experiences at some airports in the US....

I truly sympathize with your horror stories but I am now compelled to ask
when was the last time you went through security in Frankfort, Germany.
You want lines?? They wand most everyone and that takes forever!! They
are predominately rude. And at least in the Lufthansa hub, the ladies
rooms are FILTHY and UNHEALTHY!!!! Been through there many times.

As to the poster who called the US xenophopic? Go to Japan...The airports
address NO foreign countries...and you'd think the least they could do would be
to use pictures for the bathrooms like a stick figure in a dress and one in
pants....NO! That country's xenophobia was exposed to the world when
they held the winter Olympics and there was not one ATM machine and most
places of business took NO credit cards...trust me, it was a NIGHTMARE!!!

Hong Kong airport old and new is the most accommodating to foreigners in
my opinion....I am sure their are others, but this was for me the most notable.

[Mid Atlantic]

"More important is to not make eye contact with any agent at any airport including the wanding woman who stands outside of the Belize Int'l holding tank as you are beginning your journey across the tarmac to get on the jet taking you out of the country."

AHA, I always make eye contact as I gaze around while standing in line at airports (or anyplace else), and whoever I make eye contact with gets a smile and nod; particularly the official types that come into view. I have been sidelined for further scrutiny from time to time and I just go along with whatever the program is and remain calm and polite; however I am not intimidated by the experience. I figure that if this sort of thing will help to keep the skies safer, even in some miniscule way, I'm prepared to cooperate. I haven't been sidelined often. But then again my name is Eastmond.

[turtle]

HaHa...Mid! What's funny is that in Belize, I have already passed through
the security checkpoint and then enter the holding tank. Why wand after
the fact unless they don't trust their own employees to not pass something
on to you while in the tank and before going onto the plane.
Maybe tougher security for THEM is just as much in order.

I agree with the safety factor, of course; better more than not enough!
I have only been wanded twice..like I said before, once in Alaska and then
once in Japan but because I have traveled so much, I have had plenty to
observe and some of it is truly nonsensical....but then you never know.

Everyone who has ever traveled has an airport story, for sure; good, bad and ugly. Here's one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIH0GROsw5Q

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