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turtle

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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:41 pm Post subject: Banning/Censoring on Tonyboard.... |
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Here you go.........
Tony - I was not objecting to the recent policy regarding responding to trolls. I was simply pointing out that I frequently lack self-control when it comes biting my tongue, and I am frequently guilty of responding to offensive posts.
I never took the policy as an attempt to eliminate all the great chatter that makes this board so entertaining, and I hope others did not either.
I'm just livin' the dream brother! [Wink] Posts: 282 | From: Consejo | Registered: Feb 2006 | IP: Logged
bubblebreaker
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posted 03-12-2007 11:48 PM Profile for bubblebreaker Email bubblebreaker Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post A most important suggestion.
since you no longer have a space problem
any deleted text can go to a separate archive
that can be looked at, if one wants to.
so, that eliminates having to censor, it just removes it from daily view.
i do not refer to spammers btw Posts: 4478 | From: carcassonne,france | Registered: Apr 2002 | IP: Logged
rockstarshines
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posted 03-13-2007 12:01 AM Profile for rockstarshines Email rockstarshines Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post OK I can live with what Bubble just said,as long as it was noted it was moved and where too.I bet it will be the most visited site.
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posted 03-13-2007 12:34 AM Profile for Mid Atlantic Email Mid Atlantic Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Yea; good idea; the place where it goes could be called The Trash Can and anything that gets sent to the Trash Can can only be responded to in The Trash Can. If it's replied to outside of the trash can then the reply is put back into the Trash with the trash. Can I have the job of deciding what goes into the trash? Posts: 1871 | From: Bermuda | Registered: Feb 2004 | IP: Logged
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posted 03-13-2007 06:34 AM Profile for barnacle Email barnacle Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post edit: opps! maybe spoke too soon?
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anton
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posted 03-13-2007 10:03 AM Profile for anton Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Mid, trash can has very negative connotations, maybe we should call it a compost pile. But then again what goes to into a compost pile is very valuable matter on its way back into the cycle of life and we are talking real unrecyclable garbage that has no other place than a land fill - so you have a point here. Posts: 1248 | From: Succotz | Registered: Apr 2006 | IP: Logged
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posted 03-13-2007 11:22 AM Profile for rokboat Email rokboat Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post I like that idea, and also agree that it would likely be the most visited archive. Afterall human nature and Nascar have much in common. [Big Grin] Posts: 49 | From: Steamboat Springs, CO | Registered: Aug 2006 | IP: Logged
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posted 03-13-2007 01:06 PM Profile for BZ501 Email BZ501 Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post I started this topic 2 days ago in the pm, and look at all the action. [Big Grin] Posts: 417 | From: Punta Gorda | Registered: Mar 2002 | IP: Logged
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posted 03-13-2007 07:50 PM Profile for Senor Reek Email Senor Reek Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post OK, I think it's an interesting problem. Since I have a popular website, I have thought about doing a forum (or equiv.) from time to time. It looks like a lot of work!!
I like the interaction, but I also commiserate about the emotions, and the stuff that gets posted because of that.
My friend Margaret Briggs, ran one for a little while and gave up. (localgringos) A valuable lesson.
I like to hear people say what they think. (Becauwse I like to do that.) But then we have some people who have an agenda (which me may not understand -- and which may be REALLY FAR from what we expected.) A couple of these guys seem to be "poor Johnny One Nohte' same old shit, again and again; We dont't welcome that, huh?
That stuff is boring. And that's the bottoem line, I think. IS IT BORNG?
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posted 03-14-2007 01:08 PM Profile for rob r. Edit/Delete Post yea...nothing like a good censorship pogrom...we doing books next? Posts: 1028 | From: GONE | Registered: Feb 2004 | IP: Logged
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posted 03-14-2007 01:51 PM Profile for anton Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Newspapers don't print everything that people write for them. It's called content selection, fact checking and editing. Without it papers would be full of crap, unreliable, unreadable and R-rated. Books get edited too, for various reasons, like spelling, syntax and plot integrity, or sometimes not printed at all. Guess what - not everyone who can tell a great story is a great writer.
Basically he who puts out the MONEY decides what the content is - it is not censorship - it's his privilege to say what HE wants to say - not your or mine - if one does not like that, one can put out one's own money and publish what one pleases, can't one? Posts: 1248 | From: Succotz | Registered: Apr 2006 | IP: Logged
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posted 03-14-2007 03:11 PM Profile for rob r. Edit/Delete Post your'e exactly right...continue to pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.... Posts: 1028 | From: GONE | Registered: Feb 2004 | IP: Logged
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posted 03-14-2007 03:13 PM Profile for bubblebreaker Email bubblebreaker Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post AP wire for example, ran a story about some muggers , and three days later was able to insert the word "masked".. i thought that to be quite up to Ap's worthless speed. Posts: 4478 | From: carcassonne,france | Registered: Apr 2002 | IP: Logged
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posted 03-14-2007 04:10 PM Profile for anton Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Man behind the curtain? LOL You got it! That's who the freedom of the press belongs too - the men behind the curtain who own the press. In the US you only need ten fingers to count them all.
But last time I checked there was no legal prohibition against becoming one and rolling one's own. Posts: 1248 | From: Succotz | Registered: Apr 2006 | IP: Logged
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posted 05-16-2007 10:38 AM Profile for rockstarshines Email rockstarshines Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Hey how is the ban working?????....lol.... Posts: 582 | From: calif | Registered: May 2005 | IP: Logged
Tony - I was not objecting to the recent policy regarding responding to trolls. I was simply pointing out that I frequently lack self-control when it comes biting my tongue, and I am frequently guilty of responding to offensive posts.
I never took the policy as an attempt to eliminate all the great chatter that makes this board so entertaining, and I hope others did not either.
I'm just livin' the dream brother! [Wink] Posts: 282 | From: Consejo | Registered: Feb 2006 | IP: Logged
bubblebreaker
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posted 03-12-2007 11:48 PM Profile for bubblebreaker Email bubblebreaker Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post A most important suggestion.
since you no longer have a space problem
any deleted text can go to a separate archive
that can be looked at, if one wants to.
so, that eliminates having to censor, it just removes it from daily view.
i do not refer to spammers btw Posts: 4478 | From: carcassonne,france | Registered: Apr 2002 | IP: Logged
rockstarshines
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posted 03-13-2007 12:01 AM Profile for rockstarshines Email rockstarshines Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post OK I can live with what Bubble just said,as long as it was noted it was moved and where too.I bet it will be the most visited site.
[ 03-13-2007, 12:03 AM: Message edited by: rockstarshines ] Posts: 582 | From: calif | Registered: May 2005 | IP: Logged
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posted 03-13-2007 12:34 AM Profile for Mid Atlantic Email Mid Atlantic Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Yea; good idea; the place where it goes could be called The Trash Can and anything that gets sent to the Trash Can can only be responded to in The Trash Can. If it's replied to outside of the trash can then the reply is put back into the Trash with the trash. Can I have the job of deciding what goes into the trash? Posts: 1871 | From: Bermuda | Registered: Feb 2004 | IP: Logged
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posted 03-13-2007 06:34 AM Profile for barnacle Email barnacle Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post edit: opps! maybe spoke too soon?
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anton
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posted 03-13-2007 10:03 AM Profile for anton Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Mid, trash can has very negative connotations, maybe we should call it a compost pile. But then again what goes to into a compost pile is very valuable matter on its way back into the cycle of life and we are talking real unrecyclable garbage that has no other place than a land fill - so you have a point here. Posts: 1248 | From: Succotz | Registered: Apr 2006 | IP: Logged
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posted 03-13-2007 11:22 AM Profile for rokboat Email rokboat Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post I like that idea, and also agree that it would likely be the most visited archive. Afterall human nature and Nascar have much in common. [Big Grin] Posts: 49 | From: Steamboat Springs, CO | Registered: Aug 2006 | IP: Logged
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posted 03-13-2007 01:06 PM Profile for BZ501 Email BZ501 Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post I started this topic 2 days ago in the pm, and look at all the action. [Big Grin] Posts: 417 | From: Punta Gorda | Registered: Mar 2002 | IP: Logged
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posted 03-13-2007 07:50 PM Profile for Senor Reek Email Senor Reek Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post OK, I think it's an interesting problem. Since I have a popular website, I have thought about doing a forum (or equiv.) from time to time. It looks like a lot of work!!
I like the interaction, but I also commiserate about the emotions, and the stuff that gets posted because of that.
My friend Margaret Briggs, ran one for a little while and gave up. (localgringos) A valuable lesson.
I like to hear people say what they think. (Becauwse I like to do that.) But then we have some people who have an agenda (which me may not understand -- and which may be REALLY FAR from what we expected.) A couple of these guys seem to be "poor Johnny One Nohte' same old shit, again and again; We dont't welcome that, huh?
That stuff is boring. And that's the bottoem line, I think. IS IT BORNG?
RZ Posts: 897 | From: Heartland West, USA | Registered: Jun 2006 | IP: Logged
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posted 03-14-2007 01:08 PM Profile for rob r. Edit/Delete Post yea...nothing like a good censorship pogrom...we doing books next? Posts: 1028 | From: GONE | Registered: Feb 2004 | IP: Logged
anton
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posted 03-14-2007 01:51 PM Profile for anton Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Newspapers don't print everything that people write for them. It's called content selection, fact checking and editing. Without it papers would be full of crap, unreliable, unreadable and R-rated. Books get edited too, for various reasons, like spelling, syntax and plot integrity, or sometimes not printed at all. Guess what - not everyone who can tell a great story is a great writer.
Basically he who puts out the MONEY decides what the content is - it is not censorship - it's his privilege to say what HE wants to say - not your or mine - if one does not like that, one can put out one's own money and publish what one pleases, can't one? Posts: 1248 | From: Succotz | Registered: Apr 2006 | IP: Logged
rob r.
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posted 03-14-2007 03:11 PM Profile for rob r. Edit/Delete Post your'e exactly right...continue to pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.... Posts: 1028 | From: GONE | Registered: Feb 2004 | IP: Logged
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posted 03-14-2007 03:13 PM Profile for bubblebreaker Email bubblebreaker Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post AP wire for example, ran a story about some muggers , and three days later was able to insert the word "masked".. i thought that to be quite up to Ap's worthless speed. Posts: 4478 | From: carcassonne,france | Registered: Apr 2002 | IP: Logged
anton
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posted 03-14-2007 04:10 PM Profile for anton Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Man behind the curtain? LOL You got it! That's who the freedom of the press belongs too - the men behind the curtain who own the press. In the US you only need ten fingers to count them all.
But last time I checked there was no legal prohibition against becoming one and rolling one's own. Posts: 1248 | From: Succotz | Registered: Apr 2006 | IP: Logged
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posted 05-16-2007 10:38 AM Profile for rockstarshines Email rockstarshines Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Hey how is the ban working?????....lol.... Posts: 582 | From: calif | Registered: May 2005 | IP: Logged |
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turtle

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This is fascinating as martyboard came into tonyboard:
Perhaps this question should go to the moderators.
Can they be contacted directly?
What is the point of having postings more than 2 or possibly 3 years old. Especially related to accommodations.
I can't imagine the value of old postings with the way things change. Posts: 15 | From: Asheville,NC | Registered: Jul 2006 | IP: Logged
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posted 10-28-2006 05:53 PM Profile for Tony Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post We did a general clearing of old posts about 3 months ago, but it takes a lot of time and some common sense about what is valuable and what is not. Obviously, we missed a lot, but we errored on the cautious side, trying not to delete anything that remotely had value.
If anyone would like to research old posts that could be deleted, and submit them to us, we would be forever grateful. If you find any, you could post them here, but be sure to go to the post, and copy and paste the URL from your address bar.
Thanks! Posts: 547 | From: Dangriga, Belize | Registered: Aug 98 | IP: Logged
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posted 10-28-2006 07:38 PM Profile for toadstool Email toadstool Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post i run a different board, and i believe there is a lot of value in old postings. lotsa folks like to go thru them just to learn from the past and some things don't change in two years in Belize. Posts: 42 | From: Oregon | Registered: Jul 2006 | IP: Logged
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posted 10-28-2006 10:38 PM Profile for bubblebreaker Email bubblebreaker Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post geez, can't believe i agree with you lad !!
And more than likely posts are purged for reasons of embarassment..
Because the person with a foul mouth you both know quite well, and he has contributed as well. Although on your board toad, you fail to follow your own logic.Since you have purged anything he ever wrote.
And then the little quote i put in from DR.Rice , you will not find it anymore either , it has been purged form all media. now why would that be.
Both of you maybe do not realize how important forums can be.
I am grateful all the more , when a belizean posts after me, since to delete what i might say , deletes the belizean as well. You could do another eamonn, (which i must be the first to mention his name) ,since ALL of his posts were purged.
Anyway toad , practice what you preach , keeping only the history you see fit , is very prejudice.Besides corrupting the actual history , soma was and is part of that history
And Tony,deleting posts to save money , when you could very EASY get it from us ,is a shame.
All you need is a paypal account.
Just because people get embarassed answering old posts is no reason to delete them. Posts: 4478 | From: carcassonne,france | Registered: Apr 2002 | IP: Logged
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posted 10-29-2006 01:40 AM Profile for toadstool Email toadstool Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post good point bubble. i suppose i went overboard on purging soma. he pushed me so much for so many years and i overreacted. just got tired of it, and didn't even see if he had anything good to say, just pulled the trigger.
we learn. thanks for the impetus. Posts: 42 | From: Oregon | Registered: Jul 2006 | IP: Logged
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Yeah...that pulling of the trigger was real big back then. Marty was picking off and killing whoever he felt was threatening his income. At the same time was his buddy threatening to kill you with the bullet from HIS gun. That bullet came from I'mmissing, the president of the San Pedro Social Club no less, with the encouragement of Jesse/weather as well as Amanda Syme. Nice people...huh? His posse has grown since then. |
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Mid Atlantic

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| "His posse has grown since then." Well at least by one. Want to bet that Ochei never gets to Belmopan. Not to worry, there is a new sheriff in town. |
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catweasel

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I recently thanked mtoy from placencia for adding her comment on BF.. I think it would also apply to Diane calling me a thief, even more so , because she is the admin and the owner is aware of her calling me a thief without a retraction or PROOF,,
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Thanks for the info you recently posted.. As i had asked repeatedly for Diane the admin of belizeforum to retract her calling me a thief.. Instead she booted me out... hey, it was only 9 years of free info..
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Your statement constitutes libel and defamation. It also denigrates a group of volunteers who are providing a very important service for the Peninsula. I think they've put out 5 or 6 brush fires in just the past 5-7 days.
And, while you think you can hide behind a pseudonym, the host of this site can be compelled by the courts to reveal your name if any of these people want to take legal action against you.
http://www.belizeforum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=19;t=000523
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